No Booze AND No Coulter?!?!?!?
Colorado’s KKTV reports:
A religious freedom foundation says it has uncovered evidence that bolsters its federal lawsuit claiming that the military is permitting widespread violations of religious freedom at installations across the country.
Included in the evidence disclosed yesterday are photos and videos of religious materials and activities at Fort Riley in Kansas, the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, and Fort Jackson, South Carolina.
The evidence is part of a lawsuit filed by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation — headed by 1977 Air Force graduate Mike Weinstein.
Among the evidence is a book for sale at the Fort Riley post exchange titled “A Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.”
Other evidence includes a display outside a military police battalion’s office with a quote from conservative columnist Ann Coulter that reads: quoting — “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”
Military officials say their policy is to accommodate all religious beliefs.
I actually think it should be mandatory to have Coulter’s quote in every military office, cubicle, tank and tent. In fact, if you know anyone currently serving in the military, send their APO address to me at lisajanine1112 (at) yahoo.com and I’ll gladly send them this poster of Coulter* at my own expense.
*This asterisk absolves LOTUS from any repercussions that may come from the PC police and their time-wasting antics against the military.
December 22nd, 2007 at 7:07 am
Mike Weinstein - of course its some Jew leading this charge.
December 22nd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
OK, I haven’t had my coffee yet… I don’t get it - their “evidence” seems to show widespread First Amendment freedoms?? Unless they are saying we are not “free” unless we quell any expression of Christianity and Conservatism; which, as we all know, are the true causes of evil in the world today. (Note the sarcasm dripping from the last sentence.)
December 22nd, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Got the link here from Coulter’s site… AMEN!! I think i might buy some of those posters and give them as christmas presents. Gift cards are overrated.
December 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 am
How old is Coulter in that picture? No wonder you people are so against abortion: you photograph yourselves as fetuses and attempt to pass them off as your latest head-shots! This is truly beyond the pale. But thanks for the laugh!
December 23rd, 2007 at 6:31 am
Greetings:)
I wasn’t sure at first if you were for or against religious freedom.
Seems like the only ones that don’t have religious freedom are Christians. Liberals are so funny(Louis S. Feur). I think I’m going to start sewing liberals for hate speech. Ha, Ha, Louie.
December 25th, 2007 at 3:45 am
It’s not clear to me why anyone takes Ann Coulter seriously. She’s a self-admitted provocateur, saying and doing whatever it takes to grab headlines and sell books. Her ‘opinions’ such as they are, manage a ludicrous combination of the hateful, the misleading, and the ridiculous.
To those on the left, I’d say, “Lighten up. She’s a self-refuting goof. Even her own side apologizes for her.”
To those on the right, I’d say, “Surely you can find a better champion than this preening basket of neurosis and self-adulation.
“Ms Coulter’s narcissism borders on the clinical. Find a better advocate, and you’ll win a few more arguments. Stick with Coulter? Only if a diet of shrill whine satisfies you.”
Meantime, let’s get back to serious debate led by serious people. Ann Coulter is just, well… silly.
December 25th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
To the looser Stephen..Ann Coulter is not only beautiful but brilliant. If you were not so blinded by your liberal thoughts you would think so too.
December 26th, 2007 at 2:55 am
We need many more Ann Coulters!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Ann is smarter than all of us combined. Have you ever seen anyone beat her in a debate? It can’t be done. She is literally a genius. It just adds insult to injury to the left that she is so dang funny too.
December 26th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Coulter rocks …..
’nuff said
December 26th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Stephen is probably gay, that is why he is hating on Ann Coulter. I’d marry her if I had the chance hahahaha
December 26th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
I’m a 54 year old former liberal who finally got some sense. I believe Stephen is mistaking O’reilly as a person on the right because I don’t know of any real conservative apologizing for Ann. Ann, you are my hero! Beautiful too!
Pedro
December 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I don’t know of any real conservative apologizing for Ann
I’m with you, Pedro. Maybe Stephen is referring to the libs who play conservatives on the internet. You know the ones - Their posts start with “I’m a conservative, BUT….” and then they proceed to prove they aren’t.
December 27th, 2007 at 1:21 am
How do these moronic lawsuits ever come to fruition? Why do liberals feel freedom of religion or anything else for that matter only applies to some [usually a small special interest group]? I’d like to meet these constitutionally challenged attorneys who actually feel they might have a shot at winning one of these cases so I could laugh in their faces. If I were in amongst a large group of people from one religion who were espousing their beliefs without attempting to indoctrinate, and I was from a different religion, I wouldn’t sew over it - I would expect those around me to be themselves while also feeling free to live by my own beliefs. The liberal mind is so utterly narcissistic and self-absorbed it never fails to astound and disgust me. Ann Coulter is a Constitutional Attorney if I’m not mistaken, and I’m sure she wouldn’t touch these liberal tantrum cases with a 50 foot pole. And yes, in wartime she’s a far better inspiration than any other pin-up gal. Amen.
December 27th, 2007 at 2:20 am
The first comment says it all. There are people who don’t like Ann Coulter, Christian indoctrination in the military, Republican bigotry… and then there are anti-Semites, who looove this stuff. Stupid Jews who voted Bush because he’s “pro-Israel” should take the look at this blog and think again.
December 27th, 2007 at 4:14 am
“Mike Weinstein - of course its some Jew leading this charge.”
Nice…there is nothing like the ripe smell of Christian jew hatin’ Conservative Republicans….that will wake you up and wise you up to the current state of the GOP. Shameful indeed.
December 27th, 2007 at 11:47 am
“Nice…there is nothing like the ripe smell of Christian jew hatin’ Conservative Republicans….that will wake you up and wise you up to the current state of the GOP. Shameful indeed.”
Hey Jewess, that statement is like saying all men hate women. The facts do not back you up. Christians, as a general rule, support the Jewish religion and Israel. Likewise for conservatives. Obviously you are neither so I’ll refer you to the title of Ann’s latest book.
December 27th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Ann is never refuted on the facts only the delivery. Thats why she makes libs go nuts she can slap them blind with her wit and the truth!!
December 27th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Stephen - Instead of calling you names, I’ll just state the obvious:
You can’t diminish Ann’s power, nor her wit, nor her ACCURACY, and it pisses you off.
Why ELSE would you want US to ignore her ?
If she’s ineffective, there shouldn’t be a need to ignore her, right ?
That’s it….
That’s all ….
And that’ll hold ‘ya…..
December 28th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Ann Coulter beautiful? She’s got a neck like a giraffe and a face like a horse. Yuuck. And by the way, when your start legal proceedings, you ’sue’ not ’sew.”
December 29th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
As Dear Ann always says, “they just call names and whine”. I find Stephen, the Jewess, etc. above to prove her point in many ways. If we “Righties” thought Rush would photograph so beautifully, we’d probably pair them up in a poster;-)
Snoocks2
December 29th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Someday soon the real Republican party will return, the party of fiscal conservatism, lower taxes and smaller government, and we will be rid of these ultra religious right wingers who have hijacked our party. Ann Coulter is an idiot with a bony ass and a face to match and in no way is a spokesperson for the real Republican party. What we need are a few more lions and a lot less chrstians.
December 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Most of you are so naive about how this country was designed. All your freedoms come from Christianity. The whole concept of our Declaration and Constitution are based on Biblical teachings, right down to the republic (not democracy), free markets, freedom of speech, and unalienable rights.
You don’t understand your rights, and you believe you have the right to do whatever you want as long as it feels good at the moment. In the old days, that type of thinking would have gotten you a boat ticket back to the British Empire. Freedom does not mean free to be a total immoral demented hedonistic idiot.
The problem is that over time the secularists have successfully erased the proper study of our founders lives and their true purposes from our educational system. All our history is now taught based on economics only, as if money was the only thing that mattered. Your college degrees could not hold a candle to an 8th grade education from the 1700’s. All those schools were run by the various Christian denominations. Once education finally migrated to government control, people started getting very stupid.
First they make us stupid, then they get us fighting, then they ruin our country. Socialism does not work folks. And at the rate we’re going, you will find out for sure in your lifetime. Most of you have no idea what America is all about and why.
My advise to you is go to the library of congress and read all the documents from our founders right from the Declaration, and don’t stop until you hit around 1900. Then you’ll have a clue as to what’s really been going on and how stupid we have really become, and why we are so easily manipulated into a raging ignorant stupor.
December 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Certainly only a tiny portion, but from some of the most well known…
Here is a tidbit of the basis for the most successful country in history, because of Christianity. The Bible was taught in every school, and most had read it before the age of six. Don’t spit in the wind my freinds, or bite the hand that has given you your freedoms.
John Adams
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Second President of the United States
[I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.
(Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, 1854), Vol. IX, p. 401, to Zabdiel Adams on June 21, 1776.)
[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
(Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)
The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If “Thou shalt not covet,” and “Thou shalt not steal,” were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society, before it can be civilized or made free.
(Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Charles C. Little and James Brown, 1851), Vol. VI, p. 9.)
John Quincy Adams
Sixth President of the United States
The law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes . . . of universal application-laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation which ever professed any code of laws.
(Source: John Quincy Adams, Letters of John Quincy Adams, to His Son, on the Bible and Its Teachings (Auburn: James M. Alden, 1850), p. 61.)
There are three points of doctrine the belief of which forms the foundation of all morality. The first is the existence of God; the second is the immortality of the human soul; and the third is a future state of rewards and punishments. Suppose it possible for a man to disbelieve either of these three articles of faith and that man will have no conscience, he will have no other law than that of the tiger or the shark. The laws of man may bind him in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise, virtuous, or happy.
(Source: John Quincy Adams, Letters of John Quincy Adams to His Son on the Bible and Its Teachings (Auburn: James M. Alden, 1850), pp. 22-23.)
Samuel Adams
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.
(Source: William V. Wells, The Life and Public Service of Samuel Adams (Boston: Little, Brown, & Co., 1865), Vol. I, p. 22, quoting from a political essay by Samuel Adams published in The Public Advertiser, 1749.)
Fisher Ames
Framer of the First Amendment
Our liberty depends on our education, our laws, and habits . . . it is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers.
(Source: Fisher Ames, An Oration on the Sublime Virtues of General George Washington (Boston: Young & Minns, 1800), p. 23.)
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime & pure, [and] which denounces against the wicked eternal misery, and [which] insured to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.
(Source: Bernard C. Steiner, The Life and Correspondence of James McHenry (Cleveland: The Burrows Brothers, 1907), p. 475. In a letter from Charles Carroll to James McHenry of November 4, 1800.)
Oliver Ellsworth
Chief-Justice of the Supreme Court
[T]he primary objects of government are the peace, order, and prosperity of society. . . . To the promotion of these objects, particularly in a republican government, good morals are essential. Institutions for the promotion of good morals are therefore objects of legislative provision and support: and among these . . . religious institutions are eminently useful and important. . . . [T]he legislature, charged with the great interests of the community, may, and ought to countenance, aid and protect religious institutions—institutions wisely calculated to direct men to the performance of all the duties arising from their connection with each other, and to prevent or repress those evils which flow from unrestrained passion.
(Source: Connecticut Courant, June 7, 1802, p. 3, Oliver Ellsworth, to the General Assembly of the State of Connecticut)
Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence
[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.
(Source: Benjamin Franklin, The Writings of Benjamin Franklin, Jared Sparks, editor (Boston: Tappan, Whittemore and Mason, 1840), Vol. X, p. 297, April 17, 1787. )
I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that “except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better, than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing governments by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.
I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service.
(Source: James Madison, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, Max Farrand, editor (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1911), Vol. I, pp. 450-452, June 28, 1787.)
Thomas Jefferson
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Third President of the United States
Give up money, give up fame, give up science, give the earth itself and all it contains rather than do an immoral act. And never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing, however slightly so it may appear to you. Whenever you are to do a thing, though it can never be known but to yourself, ask yourself how you would act were all the world looking at you, and act accordingly. Encourage all your virtuous dispositions, and exercise them whenever an opportunity arises, being assured that they will gain strength by exercise, as a limb of the body does, and that exercise will make them habitual. From the practice of the purest virtue, you may be assured you will derive the most sublime comforts in every moment of life, and in the moment of death.
(Source: Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Bergh, editor (Washington, DC: Thomas Jefferson Memorial Assoc., 1903), Vol. 5, pp. 82-83, in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr on August 19, 1785.)
The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of mankind.
(Source: Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Bergh, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson Memorial Assoc., 1904), Vol. XV, p. 383.)
I concur with the author in considering the moral precepts of Jesus as more pure, correct, and sublime than those of ancient philosophers.
(Source: Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Bergh, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson Memorial Assoc., 1904), Vol. X, pp. 376-377. In a letter to Edward Dowse on April 19, 1803.)
Richard Henry Lee
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
(Source: Richard Henry Lee, The Letters of Richard Henry Lee, James Curtis Ballagh, editor (New York: The MacMillan Company, 1914), Vol. II, p. 411. In a letter to Colonel Mortin Pickett on March 5, 1786.)
James McHenry
Signer of the Constitution
[P]ublic utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience.
(Source: Bernard C. Steiner, One Hundred and Ten Years of Bible Society Work in Maryland, 1810-1920 (Maryland Bible Society, 1921), p. 14.)
Jedediah Morse
Patriot and “Father of American Geography”
To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. . . . Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.
(Source: Jedidiah Morse, A Sermon, Exhibiting the Present Dangers and Consequent Duties of the Citizens of the United States of America (Hartford: Hudson and Goodwin, 1799), p. 9.)
William Penn
Founder of Pennsylvania
[I]t is impossible that any people of government should ever prosper, where men render not unto God, that which is God’s, as well as to Caesar, that which is Caesar’s.
(Source: Fundamental Constitutions of Pennsylvania, 1682. Written by William Penn, founder of the colony of Pennsylvania.)
Pennsylvania Supreme Court
No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.
(Source: Pennsylvania Supreme Court, 1824. Updegraph v. Commonwealth; 11 Serg. & R. 393, 406 (Sup.Ct. Penn. 1824).)
Benjamin Rush
Signer of the Declaration of Independence
The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.
(Source: Benjamin Rush, Essays, Literary, Moral and Philosophical (Philadelphia: Thomas and William Bradford, 1806), p. 8.)
We profess to be republicans, and yet we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government, that is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by the means of the Bible. For this Divine Book, above all others, favors that equality among mankind, that respect for just laws, and those sober and frugal virtues, which constitute the soul of republicanism.
(Source: Benjamin Rush, Essays, Literary, Moral and Philosophical (Philadelphia: Printed by Thomas and William Bradford, 1806), pp. 93-94.)
By renouncing the Bible, philosophers swing from their moorings upon all moral subjects. . . . It is the only correct map of the human heart that ever has been published. . . . All systems of religion, morals, and government not founded upon it [the Bible] must perish, and how consoling the thought, it will not only survive the wreck of these systems but the world itself. “The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” [Matthew 1:18]
(Source: Benjamin Rush, Letters of Benjamin Rush, L. H. Butterfield, editor (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1951), p. 936, to John Adams, January 23, 1807.)
Remember that national crimes require national punishments, and without declaring what punishment awaits this evil, you may venture to assure them that it cannot pass with impunity, unless God shall cease to be just or merciful.
(Source: Benjamin Rush, An Address to the Inhabitants of the British Settlements in America Upon Slave-Keeping (Boston: John Boyles, 1773), p. 30.)
Joseph Story
Supreme Court Justice
Indeed, the right of a society or government to [participate] in matters of religion will hardly be contested by any persons who believe that piety, religion, and morality are intimately connected with the well being of the state and indispensable to the administrations of civil justice. The promulgation of the great doctrines of religion—the being, and attributes, and providence of one Almighty God; the responsibility to Him for all our actions, founded upon moral accountability; a future state of rewards and punishments; the cultivation of all the personal, social, and benevolent virtues—these never can be a matter of indifference in any well-ordered community. It is, indeed, difficult to conceive how any civilized society can well exist without them.
(Source: Joseph Story, A Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (New York: Harper & Brothers, 1847), p. 260, §442.)
George Washington
“Father of Our Country”
While just government protects all in their religious rights, true religion affords to government its surest support.
(Source: George Washington, The Writings of George Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1932), Vol. XXX, p. 432 n., from his address to the Synod of the Dutch Reformed Church in North America, October 9, 1789.)
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?
And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?
(Source: George Washington, Address of George Washington, President of the United States . . . Preparatory to His Declination (Baltimore: George and Henry S. Keatinge), pp. 22-23. In his Farewell Address to the United States in 1796.)
[T]he [federal] government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, and oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any other despotic or oppressive form so long as there shall remain any virtue in the body of the people.
(Source: George Washington, The Writings of George Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: U. S. Government Printing Office, 1939), Vol. XXIX, p. 410. In a letter to Marquis De Lafayette, February 7, 1788.)
Daniel Webster
Early American Jurist and Senator
[I]f we and our posterity reject religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity.
(Source: Daniel Webster, The Writings and Speeches of Daniel Webster (Boston: Little, Brown, & Company, 1903), Vol. XIII, p. 492. From “The Dignity and Importance of History,” February 23, 1852.)
Noah Webster
Founding Educator
The most perfect maxims and examples for regulating your social conduct and domestic economy, as well as the best rules of morality and religion, are to be found in the Bible. . . . The moral principles and precepts found in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. These principles and precepts have truth, immutable truth, for their foundation. . . . All the evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible. . . . For instruction then in social, religious and civil duties resort to the scriptures for the best precepts.
(Source: Noah Webster, History of the United States, “Advice to the Young” (New Haven: Durrie & Peck, 1832), pp. 338-340, par. 51, 53, 56.)
James Wilson
Signer of the Constitution
Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into each other. The divine law, as discovered by reason and the moral sense, forms an essential part of both.
(Source: James Wilson, The Works of the Honourable James Wilson (Philadelphia: Bronson and Chauncey, 1804), Vol. I, p. 106.)
Robert Winthrop
Former Speaker of the US House of Representatives
Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet.
(Source: Robert Winthrop, Addresses and Speeches on Various Occasions (Boston: Little, Brown & Co., 1852), p. 172 from his “Either by the Bible or the Bayonet.”)
There are a few hundred thousand more documents in the library of congress you might be interested in.
Now can you say, this is a Christian country?
December 30th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
How can one improve on the dissertation by sassedenough? It obviously was well researched, studied, and prepared. The references tell it all. Now if the left wing liberals were able to write and reference their facts(?) as well, they just may get some intellectual individuals to listen to them. However, that would call for divine intervention which we all know they prefer to deny. As for Ann Coulter, her lowest grade is mountains higher than the entire left wing party-collectively. They would never try to debate her as they well know, she would annihilate them in record time.
December 31st, 2007 at 12:06 am
Liberals are almost as histerical in their reaction to Ann Coulter as they are to President Bush. They will however praise to the sky as reasonable spokespersons - Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Oliver Stone, Harry Belefonti, Castro, Chavez, Senator Reid, Congresswoman Pelosi, Senator Kennedy, Bill and Hillary Clinton, etrc. etc.
Ann, along with - Laura Ingram and Monica Cowley, Rush, Hannity and an increasing number of personalities who make the traditional media ever less influential will have the same impact upon the left wing politicos who have no solutions that accomplish any of the objectives they claim to seek but are designed to ensure they maintain power.
December 31st, 2007 at 1:56 am
I cannot help but note that from the time of the Communist infiltration of the U.S government in the 30s, 40s and 50s, to the recent anti-Christian diatribes of Mr. Weinstein that many of those who opposed mainstream American values had Jewish surnames. Is that some unfortunate coincidence or is their some underlying reason for this consistant reoccurrence?
Just wondering………….
December 31st, 2007 at 10:11 am
@ sassedenough
Ok..Your missing the point here. Freedom of Religion does not mean “Just Christianity”. Congress added the words “under God” to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and passed a law requiring all U.S. currency to carry the motto “In God We Trust” a year later.
Of course the majority of the founding fathers had Christian backgrounds..They were driven away from Europe because they wanted to practice their beliefs. But do you feel that any other religion should be able to practice theirs as well? Things have changed very much since our country’s inception and there are many different religions and world views. Each one of them make similar claims as to being the “One True Faith” and how everyone else is wrong. To say, “I’m right because my book says so.” is invalid. So does everyone elses…
I do not want to see someones right to worship as they please removed. I believe if a child wishes to pray in school before a test or just because they should be able to do so…on their own time..without making a giant fiasco. I do not feel that the state should pay for or sanction any specific religion. Not Christianity, Judaism, Islam (which all come from the same Abrahamic roots) or any of the other faiths out there. I don’t want to see any religious symbols on government property.
Since when has the conservative base turned soley to rediculous issues like gay marriage and abortion and faith? We should be concentrating on resolving the collapsing dollar..Finding an efficient and effective way to win the War..Decreasing the unemployment rate…Anything but dogmatic issues.
Abortion…Well, whether you like it or not…It’s a womans right to choose. It’s her body and she has the decision to make. I don’t personally agree with it and would never endorse it as an option in my personal life. It is the woman herself that will deal with the consequences for her actions in either this life or the next. In regards to Gay Marriage. That’s the big one isn’t it? Everyone has something to say on the matter….Some of the more rediculous statements being that it will be the “end of society” or what have you….Honestly…It’s not like we are illegalizing heterosexual marriage. They aren’t endorsing pedophelia or any such nonsense. It’s two consenting adults wanting to be able to have the same financial benefits of anyone else. You get married, you pay the marriage tax. How is more people paying taxes a bad thing? Seriously people…We have a right to free speech and a right to disagree with what happens but we do not have the right to make someone else conform to our beliefs. Our society has come a long way and should not allow it’s development to be hindered by ancient traditions.
As far as Ann Coulter is concerned…She’s a shock jock. She admits it. And the reason she needs to be ignored? Because she’s just a journalist. She’s not in any position of political power and she speaks hateful messages. We are not trying to convert everyone to Christianity. I fought in both theatres in the current War with the US Army and I am not Christian. Many of my squad mates were, but then again, the majority of America is Christian. That’s why I never understood the whole persecuted thing…It’s really difficult to be the “persecuted majority”. Persecution is denying you the ability to gather in churches…Putting you into concentration camps like the Jews in WW2. Feeding you to lions and the like. Persecution is -not- telling you to play nice with others and not impose your beliefs on other people.
Say what you like in response…it’s your Right. I hope all of you have an excellent New Year and if nothing else..I hope my words made you ponder what I’ve said. May the God of your choosing bless you always.
-Ranger Joe
December 31st, 2007 at 4:57 pm
To Ranger Joe:
Thank you for a moment of sanity!
December 31st, 2007 at 5:54 pm
I think it’s pretty much a given that most environmentalist are liberals. I also think it’s pretty much a given that most liberals believe in evolution.
Recently, a bunch of dolphins beached themselves on a stretch of beach in Australia. A larger bunch of environmetalist ran down to the scene to push said dolphins back into the ocean.
Maybe those dolphins were trying to walk out of the ocean and these knuckleheads keep pushing them back in. It happens time and time again…I’m just saying..
December 31st, 2007 at 6:22 pm
I believe Ann should run for office ,maybe Mitt would pick her for a running mate.
Total admiration for her ability to strike with a sword, into the heart of the Dragon ,every time!
If nothing else, ANN for the SUPREMES. Because she is Supreme!
jerrry
December 31st, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Coulter rocks …
December 31st, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Ranger Joe, there can be persecution of the majority. You see, we live in a democratic republic, in which the many are governed by the few. Alot of times, it seems to me like I’m voting for the lesser of two evils, and not for who really represents myself, because politicians on both the left and the right are really starting to resemble each other.
As for persecution of Christians, it’s not as overt as being sent to a concentration camp, but it is there. The ACLU will pursue any lawsuit as long as it is filed against Christians. Under God may be in the pledge, but that’s hardly Christian alone. As people are always pointing out, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity have the same root and the same root God.
People are discouraged from saying Merry Christmas, because Christmas is a Christian holiday and we wouldn’t want to offend anybody would we? Children are not allowed to form bible clubs on their school grounds because that would be “prejudiced,” and given detention for praying on campus, even if they’re completely alone.
In England, another predominantly Christian country, the courts upheld a school’s decision to not allow a student to wear her Christian jewelry. They claimed it was against the dress code; the student’s point was that Muslim students consistently broke the rules by wearing head coverings and jewelry and were not reprimanded.
Every major persecution has started small and snowballed. People did not wake up one day and decide to throw Jews in the concentration camps; it was the result of a long period of persecution that eventually escalated to the death camps.
December 31st, 2007 at 10:20 pm
“The ACLU will pursue any lawsuit as long as it is filed against Christians.”
Untrue, Southern Gal.
The ACLU brings lawsuits on behalf of Christians as well–even the vile Westboro Baptist Church, which I would think any Christian who took the teachings of Jesus to heart would disavow.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res20060824.html
January 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Sassedenough….please.
Where is your website?
We need it.
We need your details.
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
You can find just as many quotations from our Founding Fathers that believe in God but denounce Christianity and the Bible.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/fathers_quote2.htm
And Ranger Joe, our founding fathers were not driven from England, that was the Puritans over a hundred years earlier. We declared our independence from England for tax purposes mostly.
And Sassedenough, most of your quotes are prominently deist, and in no way establish a Christian foundation. Notice that most of the quotes do not even mention Jesus, or Christianity, but a belief in God. That, by definition, is deism.
For the ones that do mention Jesus, they hold up his teachings over his divinity hands down.
I’m sure you are familiar with the teachings of Jesus. I’m sure you are also aware that Jesus today would be considered a socialist, or at least liberal. Jesus aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed, challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day, advocated pacifism, liberated women and minorities from oppression, and routinely called the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked hypocrites. Do I need to go on?
January 4th, 2008 at 12:07 am
The stupidity in these comments is staggering… so is the hatred:
“What we need are a few more lions and a lot less chrstians.” (Christians spelled wrong by writer and not capitalized)
There are a few more like: “of course its some Jew leading the charge”
How could anyone say such things? Why do you hate Christianity so much? Has Jesus does something to you? Boy, I pity you all of you who bash religion, but especially Christians. Why? Because you’re chances of going to hell, which is real, are incredibly high.
I write this to defend Christianity and Jesus Christ! (Without calling you names I might add)
Jesus once said, and I am paraphrasing, Those who are persecuted in my name shall be welcomed into heaven. A life of True Faith is MUCH HARDER than that of No Faith (and bashing it).
Also, someone wrote about Jews vote for Bush just for Israel… well, who else will they vote for? Judaism was was here well before Islam, which the writer did not say, so why should Jews vote for Democrats that do not see this and won’t protect Israel as it gets attacked in every way from just about every country in its area and others around the world?
Any Jew who supports Democrats are either non-practicing, non-believing and ‘use’ their ‘title of Jew’ for personal benefit, are ignorant of the facts. Democrats, no matter what they say, do not truly support Israel. They want to negotiate with their enemies for their own good!
And one other thing.. why is someone on the right an ideologue when they defend their principles, but when someone on the left does it, which is hard because principles are hard to find, are patriots looking out for the good of the country? It’s funny that the truth of conservatism working, which is proven time and again historically, is touted by liberals as the wrong path, when in point of fact liberal ideals (if you can call them that) constantly do not work and has now reached truly the brink of socialism.
Sorry if I’m not as coherent as some here, but as the anger wells up inside at the ignorance of some of the people who have commented (and who have the nerve to call themselves patriots), I am seeing red and doing everything I can to not lash out, curse and act like a lib. By the way, it’s called self-control… something liberals apparently are not aware of when considering/ debating their views.
January 4th, 2008 at 9:17 am
RangerJoe@ Your characterization of abortion as “…a womans right to choose. It’s her body…” is I suppose the current law of the land as set by a controversial 40 year old supreme court decision, but it expresses a very warped morality. What about the baby?
Pregnancy doesn’t just randomly happen. More than 90% of abortions are elected by women [or forced on women by others] who had a chance to choose *before* the pregnancy. I don’t see how you can cavalierly say we have to allow abortion even if we don’t like it. We don’t allow bank robbery. We don’t allow people with federal first and second amendment rights to even threaten to rob a bank. We don’t allow people with allergies to buy legal, safe and effective medications containing pseudoefedrine in any quantity we like. I beg you to think again, what about the baby?
I love Ann Coulters work. She makes me laugh, and she makes me think.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
It’s not a ‘baby’.
Brian, not everyone thinks or believes that a blastocyst/embryo/fetus is a ‘life’ or a human being. I don’t. It seems that with more scientific discoveries, the more the pro-birthers are claiming the earlier life begins. It’s getting to the point that the claim is going to be it starts with ‘dinner and a movie’.
I get fed up with people rudely saying “she could choose to keep her legs closed”, and I get very offended with that. What about the man keeping his zipper up?
As for the 90% statistic you are citing, maybe, but only after other birth control has failed. Bets you didn’t figure that into the random percentage you posted.
Ann Coulter is a gas-bag, and a vicious short sighted one one at that.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
T, it’s not Jesus or his words I don’t like. It’s his many factions of fan clubs who use yellow highlighters and pick and choose what part of his message they want to follow.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Sassedenough, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are wrong. The US is and never was founded on Christian Belief system. No matter how much you say it is, doesn’t make is so.
For your reading (and education)
Preamble to the Constitution:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
No Christianity mentioned there, no siree!
Bill of Rights:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Lookit! No Christianity mentioned here either!
Now for the kicker!
Treaty of Tripoli:
Article 11
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
January 5th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I do not think abortion laws will change anytime soon. However the womans right to control her own body is such a false argument it needs a little response.
I could mention illegal drugs etc where government has a vested intrest in your body but I digress. It is not the womans body in question. It is an individual with a completely different genetic makeup than either parent. There can be much discussion on when life begins, but the Supreme Court has never, and will probably never rule on that particular sticky issue. So you see it is not the womans body but the body of another unique individual. No matter how it is argued or twisted that is the one fact that is the sticking point. I am not brilliant or learned enough to say with certainty when life begins, but wouldn’t it be prudent to err conservativly instead of taking a chance on murder, even if murder was not the intended result.
January 5th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I for one am not prepared to have our president sworn into office on a Koran…..as would happen should B. Hussein Obama win next November.
Our government and instutions have specific procedures reflecting our history and values.
Our republic is founded on the principle of freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM {read that Christian, God-centered} religion. Each is free to practice his or her own religion as desired. It is however, provocative, insulting and condescending to demand a Koran become part of our institutions.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
The truth told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent.
That iswhat Ann Coulter is about. She shreds!
January 7th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
It’s interesting that Weinstein is referring to these as “violations of religious freedom”, shouldn’t they rather be cited as “EXAMPLES of religious freedom”? Once again, ignorant liberals confuse “freedom OF religion” with “freedom FROM religion” which, as anyone with an 8th grade education who bothers to check can tell you, DOES NOT EXIST! (but when was the last time these folks actually cared what was in the Constitution anyways)!
January 8th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Ranger Joe did not serve in the US Army during this conflict or any other. “theatre” and “squad mates” are British terms. You know, sort of like, “slogging it out in Sicily with Dear Old Monty”. His text sounds like it came from a second form teacher back in Jolly Old England. Miss Coulter is awesome.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:49 am
“I believe Ann should run for office ,maybe Mitt would pick her for a running mate.
Total admiration for her ability to strike with a sword, into the heart of the Dragon ,every time!
If nothing else, ANN for the SUPREMES. Because she is Supreme!”
(jerry sutton)
Well, if you’d read her books you’d realize that she thinks women shouldn’t be able to vote, much less serve in office. And as I’m sure everyone out there knows but doesn’t want to admit, there is NO disparity between the intelligence levels of liberals and conservatives- they just have differing views. Even if Miss Coulter did swing the intelligence meter in the conservatives’ direction, I’m afraid that President Bush would head butt it back to its previous locale.
I have tremendous respect for what the Republican Party used to stand for: supporting the common man by keeping taxes low and the government out of everyone’s business. But what the party has become is so convoluted and corrupted that we may as well combine the Dems and GOPs, throw them in a room together, and torch the place.
January 9th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Ranger Joe, you are a moral less, godless, windbag that spews liberal sound bite baloney in an attempt to sound logical, reasonable, and unbiased. Cow pies!
Does the word moral equivalence mean anything to you. Of course not, you have no morals or values beyond, if it feels good, do it! You have no comprehension of morals whatsoever. You simply think that since a belief is pop-culture, then it must be moral because it is popular. The problem with that is that as our culture has been hijacked by the likes of Tila Tequila and Brittany Spears. When Richard Gere and Madonna are the beacons of spirituality, our souls are not only lost, we have forsaken them.
All religions are not created equal, no matter how sensible you think it sounds. I’m not just saying this because I am Christian.
Christianity has reformed itself to the extent that violence and oppression are the extreme exception and not the norm. No other religion has spread civilization and morality like Christianity. Sure, Christians of old committed some transgressions in the process, but most were in the name of personal power by individuals under the guise of spreading the faith. The legacy of these tyrants actions are some of the most civil, moral, and prosperous societies on the planet.
As a Christian of the Catholic faith, that only mildly practices, we are told and taught that the Jews are the chosen people. While some individuals have historically acted counter to that teaching, the message has taken root by the vast majority of Catholics and Christians in general, as only the most ignorant and extremist of Christians revile the Jews. Gladly, they are very, very small in number.
Your suggestion that Islam is morally equivalent to Christianity is ludicrous. When 60+ percent of Muslims living in western societies say in polling that the believe that Sharia should be instituted in the countries they moved to, it says that even the so-called moderate, peaceful Muslims believe in the most barbaric doctrines of their religion.
They are also saying the rest of us have no freedom of religion, because the very heart of Sharia and Islam in general is the belief that anyone practicing any other religion are dhimmi. Remember that term well, as your throat is being slashed for your atheism and your wife is being raped. I suggest you look up the term dhimmi, kuffar, and jigza. Then you will know where you will stand with Muslims. If that extreme scenario would ever come to pass in your lifetime, you will drop to your knees and pray to the Christian god that Christianity would return to power. Better yet, prove your belief in equivalence and go to your beloved Muslim friend’s country, such as Mauritania and experience the joy that the recent French picnicers did. They got shot for not being Muslims!
There are approximately 20 armed conflicts in the world today. I believe 19 are Muslims fighting to impose a pure Islamic state. How many Christians commit violence in the name of Jesus?
Don’t even try to say that George Bush’s war in Iraq is a Christian one. No one is trying to impose Christianity there. But honestly, Ann Coulters extreme proposal to spread Christianity there would certainly be a boon for the women there, which are pretty much relegated to the role of chattel. I can here the Muslim women cheering now!
Islam has no intention of living in peace with us. It is against the Koran. I suggest you read a translation. It scared the hell out of me. That the most extreme of beliefs in there are practiced in whole Islamic countries is insane and frightening. The most extreme beliefs contained in the Bible have not been practiced in centuries.
On abortion, the Constitution grants no right to abortion. Period. Only in an extremists interpretation, a total right to privacy is still a stretch. It just isn’t there.
Gay marriage, well, you obviously have no clue what marriage is. Marriage is not a civil issue, you passionless gall stone. If you are referring to the civil legal aspect of marriage, then you are referring to an oppressive action by government to control marriage. Marriage is not a civil issue, it is a spiritual one. It has been diminished to a cheap civil contract to be arbitrarily tweaked according to style, fashion, and pop-culture.
No, society will not end if it is allowed, but it will be another nail in the coffin of virtue and morality. You, of course, cannot comprehend and should never speak of morality until you understand it. What it will do is further undermine our future as our children care less and less about how they conduct themselves. Life, love, and family (blood family you idiot) will cease to exist. In that sense, yes, we would be doomed. Liberalism has destroyed the family, the vary foundation of civilization. Marriage is the foundation of the family, not two daddies.
What you call development of society, morality dictates that it is decadence. I suggest you look that up. It doesn’t mean rich chocolates.
Ann Coulter is so out of your league you cannot comprehend her at all anymore than a worm can comprehend your moronic key strokes.
Christians are taught to hate evil. Liberals have no clue what that means because they are always trying to understand the motivations of people that do evil things. Evil exists, most of the time for its own sake. There is not understanding it, it just is. And it exists in mostly in those that have lost their sense of morality and go against Christian teachings. Ann Coulter only hates that which she sees as evil. Really, there is nothing wrong with that unless you are a girly man.
Before you go and try to pull the Inquisition out of your arse, consider this. More people were killed in the 100 years of the 20th century by secular governments then in all 2000+ years of Christianity. Now Islam is trying to top Hitler and Stalin (see Bin Laden and Iranian President).
Your suggestion that Christians are claiming to be persecuted, well you are centuries late for that, you imbecile. But to say that there isn’t a concerted and obvious prejudice and attack on Christianity would be wholly dishonest.
In the end, I would rather be governed by a religious man that believes that he will be judged by God, than a man that “knows” that he will never be judged at all.
When our rights are granted by a creator, then no man can take them away, but for forsaking truth and righteousness. When our rights are granted by men, those rights can be taken away at man’s whim and convenience.
God bless you, because God knows you need it. Oh, and Jesus still loves you, despite your hatred towards him.
January 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Ok quick question for the pro-lifers on here, you feel that its wrong to abort a fetus because its a living soul and your taught in that bible that life begins at conception that life is a thing that should be cherished and protected, it even sez in the ten commandments ‘ Though shalt not kill’, I’m pro-choice but thats an argument I can understand, your simply against murdering innocent (potential) people…so whats your opinion on the Iraq war?
January 10th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
OK Quick Answer! If I see someone trying to kill you, what should I do?
A.) Try to stop him.
B.) Try to understand him.
If you said A you’re pro-life
If you said B you’re pro-choice
January 11th, 2008 at 3:59 am
Liberals routinely preach tolerance and say that conservatives are hateful and mean-spirited. But when a conservative woman speaks out, their first reaction always seems to be to call her ugly. In the case of Ann Coulter this is simply silly. I suppose different people have different tastes, but I can’t imagine how any man would honestly think Coulter ugly. But in any case, surely a woman’s physical appearance has nothing to do with the intellectual quality of her political positions. Calling a woman ugly because you disagree with what she’s saying is just plain mean-spirited — what liberals are supposedly against. And sexist, I might point out. Does anyone try to discredit a MAN’s political positions on the grounds that he’s physically unattractive?
I’m also amused by the bizarre statement that Christians in America can’t possibly be discriminated against because they are a majority. Like, say, black people in South Africa in the 80’s? Just no way they could be victims of discrimination, they were the majority! Or for that matter, in America today liberals are constantly screaming about how they are being persecuted by the fascist Bush regime. But they also claim that Bush stole the election. So are liberals the majority, or are they being persecuted? You just told me that both can’t be true. Obviously, then, one of your complaints is a lie.
January 16th, 2008 at 2:50 am
Cool article…great link from Ann Coulter’s site.
I’ve always found Ann to be very thought-provoking. I know liberals hate her, and want to pass on the myth that conservatives try to distance themselves from her. Funny thing is, I’ve never met a liberal who has read any of her columns or her books.
Then again, I’ve never met a liberal who understands history. Like Reagan said, “A liberal is someone who reads Marx and Lenin. A conservative is one who understands Marx and Lenin.”
I find it sad how modern liberals ignore history - even recent history - and believe that their “new ideas” will ever work. Take any topic…say, socialized medicine. It’s been tried numerous times over many, many years in many, many countries, and it has always failed. Somehow liberals either are intentionally ignorant of this, know it but refuse to acknowledge it for the sole purpose of pandering and gaining “power,” or just don’t understand that it doesn’t make sense to watch others bang their heads against a wall hundreds of times without effect, yet somehow banging our (the US’) head against the same wall knock it down.
There’s a reason people want to come here from all “progressive” nations with socialized medicine when in search of speedy and quality medical care - our free market approach works. Capitalism promotes innovation.
I know I branched off-topic somewhat, but I needed to vent. Banning pics or quotes of Ann’s or anyone else’s because they are not “politically-correct” isn’t quite constitutional. We have no right to not be offended.
Rock on, Ann!
Bill
January 19th, 2008 at 3:09 am
I think she’s a breath of fresh air.
Thanks for being you, Ann! : )
” bless Israel, and ” bless the Jewish people!